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Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10293	Posted - 2013.07.12 11:38:00 - [1] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first. Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment! How about we do it for posters that have consistently proved they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about instead? "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10293	Posted - 2013.07.12 11:41:00 - [2] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Harry Forever wrote: I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first. Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment! How about we do it for posters that have consistently proved they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about instead? and again you are just showing me that you do not understand my posts That'll be because I don't speak idiot, or understand gibberish. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10293	Posted - 2013.07.12 11:44:00 - [3] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: the just move on to another thread please, otherwise i get the feeling you want to understand me but are not able to I feel that it is my duty to point out idiocy, stupidity and just plain trolling, you're guilty of all three, besides you asked for feedback and ideas, I've provided both. Now please insert another coin to continue. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10295	Posted - 2013.07.12 11:49:00 - [4] - Quote Nope I'm not angry at all, if I was I wouldn't be sat here chortling to myself at the amount of crap contained in 99% of your posts. You seem to have an extremely high opinion of both yourself and your ideas, despite the amount of ridicule they bring upon you. I believe that's called hubris, and it has been the downfall of many a man. edit - oooo scary, I've now been blocked by yet another shiptoaster for disagreeing with them, oh well not my loss. OP you are about as wrong, in your perception of what Eve is, as you can get without being Ace. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10295	Posted - 2013.07.12 11:58:00 - [5] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: check the edits, in the OP, there are some really good ideas if you are able to open up your blocked mind Despite having been blocked for pointing out that you are a troll, I must ask you to point out these good ideas, because I just can't see them. In fact my cat has posted better ideas by parking her backside on the keyboard. This is my cat, bask in her cuteness, for she is an infinitely better poster than the OP "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10302	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:24:00 - [6] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: Yet another terrible idea Everyone Else wrote: Your idea is terrible Harry Forever wrote: You're all wrong, frustrated and angry because you think my ideas are bad Everyone Else wrote: ROFL Harry Forever wrote: I'm right and you're all wrong Anybody else seeing a pattern here? "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10302	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:32:00 - [7] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Anybody else seeing a pattern here? yes please open up your own threads and discuss about all the stuff you do not understand, you people are anoying and do not add anything to the topic I thought I was blocked? you can't even do that right. When you actually post something worth discussing, and do it in readable English (complete with punctuation and capitalisation), then I'll stop pointing out your obvious trolling/ misunderstanding. I understand what you're suggesting and I'm telling you that it is the epitome of a bad idea, as are a lot of other people. I realise you see yourself as one man against the world, but tbh you may as well be King Canute trying to stop the tide, he suffered from hubris as well. The poster above me has the right of it, you and Ace are 2 of the worst posters to ever grace these forums, you make Tom Gerard look good. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10306	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:43:00 - [8] - Quote Zappity wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: but tbh you may as well be King Canute trying to stop the tide, he suffered from hubris as well. Actually quite the reverse. You should read up on it - if the incident with the tide actually happened it was a clever bit of politics. I may well be wrong about King Canute suffering from hubris, my history classes are 30 years in the past. It still doesn't mean that Harry's idea is good though. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10308	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:48:00 - [9] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: at the moment there are zero consequences for scamming, thats just boring There are consequences for scamming, however the consequences are down to you to enforce and devise. Your jail mechanic is just plain bad, and would be abused by all and sundry if it ever came to be. Malcanis's law would be a relevant quote right about now. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10308	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:52:00 - [10] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: My favorite part is the "voting" possibility. Like that will work any better than, you know, voting for CSM. I can just imagine how much fun that would be. Wouldn't even have to DDoS people anymore, the "prison" system will do it for us! EVE Offline, pay not to play! votingrights should only be possible conected with game mechanics, like mentioned simular to the killrights you get scammed you get a voting right, mechanics could be implemented for basic and obvious scams So I can lie about being scammed to get a vote? "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10315	Posted - 2013.07.12 12:56:00 - [11] - Quote Zappity wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Zappity wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: but tbh you may as well be King Canute trying to stop the tide, he suffered from hubris as well. Actually quite the reverse. You should read up on it - if the incident with the tide actually happened it was a clever bit of politics. I may well be wrong about King Canute suffering from hubris, my history classes are 30 years in the past. It still doesn't mean that Harry's idea is good though. Yeah, no argument about that... The analogy was certainly valid. The alternative (and anagrammatic) spelling of Canute would actually be more valid for the purposes of this thread though. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10315	Posted - 2013.07.12 13:02:00 - [12] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: before you start posting something silly Pot meet kettle. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10322	Posted - 2013.07.12 13:12:00 - [13] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Look! Another terribad game idea dumped in GD because the OP believes he is "special". . I have something to soothe your pain. I prefer this version "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10352	Posted - 2013.07.12 13:47:00 - [14] - Quote darmwand wrote: Personally I'm the "ah, interesting, lesson learnt, won't do that again" type but then I don't live in high-sec, people there have a reputation for being a bit thin-skinned I do live in highsec and I'm also of the same "lesson learnt, don't do it again" type. I have been the "victim" of the margin trading scam, my response to it was to evemail the guy, ask him how he managed to pull it off, and then congratulate him on its execution. Knowledge is power, I know how the scam works, therefore I won't fall for it again. Harry's idea is so open to abuse that it's ridiculous, although he can't see that because it's his idea and therefore an excellent one. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10355	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:00:00 - [15] - Quote darmwand wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I do live in highsec and I'm also of the same "lesson learnt, don't do it again" type. Heh, didn't mean to offend you. No offence taken, I agree with you that there's a fair proportion of highsec residents with thin skin Multor Kaston wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Harry Forever wrote: the just move on to another thread please, otherwise i get the feeling you want to understand me but are not able to I feel that it is my duty to point out idiocy, stupidity and just plain trolling, you're guilty of all three, besides you asked for feedback and ideas, I've provided both. Now please insert another coin to continue. You need a life if you think that is your duty. I agree that this idea is rather questionable, but so are your manners. Thanks I already have a life, and I never professed to be polite when dealing with morons. Sarcasm, look it up. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10356	Posted - 2013.07.12 14:13:00 - [16] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Cipher Deninard wrote: Horrible idea. The point is that this game is a sandbox. Players do what they enjoy doing, if that includes scamming and awoxing then that is up to them. Again, folks are missing the idea of what a sandbox is -- players would want a prison as well. Being that it is a sandbox game, those mechanics and game play are equally valid. Cops and robbers gameplay is classic and works in concept and reality. Really want to be a criminal RP the part, but there's risks vs rewards to also think about (and criminals aren't babies that need devs to hand hold them to even play). If players want a prison system then it's up to the players to build one, and all the necessary infrastructure to support it. If Harry want to punish scammers then he has to do it using the existing mechanics, instead of asking CCP to do it for him. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10368	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:11:00 - [17] - Quote Milan Nantucket wrote: Maybe you don't know how scamming works.... 1) Get a crappy alt 2) Spam all day 3) Some idiot falls for scam 4) Spam all day 5) Another idiot 6) Spam all day 7) another idiot 8) .... and so on and so forth 9) Biomass 10) Rinse and repeat No undocking is nowhere in the list so no "game mechanic" is there for any "Retribution". Now the idea is putting in an actual risk for something that is well riskless. I know how the scams work, although I can think of several "scammers" that would disagree with how you think they work. I'll even give you a couple of names of "scammers" that undock, Miilla and Erotica 1, both of which I am sure would love you to try and gain some retribution. Scams only work because the "mark" is too stupid or greedy to read properly. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10368	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:19:00 - [18] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: Zappity wrote: We really need a new Troll Posts subforum. And perhaps a UO-type mini-game in the CQ to cater for the Op. Candy Crush would be more his speed. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10369	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:31:00 - [19] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: I'm right, I know I'm right and anybody that tells me that I'm not right is wrong and clearly an idiot, I shall block them because they're idiots and because they're wrong. Pull your head out of your arse Harry, your idea is silly, you've been told it's silly by multiple people and yet you still believe that your suggestion has merit. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10370	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:36:00 - [20] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Harry Forever wrote: I'm right, I know I'm right and anybody that tells me that I'm not right is wrong and clearly an idiot, I shall block them because they're idiots and because they're wrong. Pull your head out of your arse Harry, your idea is silly, you've been told it's silly by multiple people and yet you still believe that your suggestion has merit. stop adding your words to my quotes, honestly, don't you have anything better to do? silly is not an agrument, but keep trying to search for one, if there is any I'm not adding words, I'm actually removing them and then distilling your meaningless drivel down into its purest form. In fact I've managed to summarise about 90% of your posts in this thread into less than 40 words. I see that you've still failed to block me, even though you said you'd done it several pages ago, here's a hint click on my name to the left and select hide posts, it's not that hard. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10370	Posted - 2013.07.12 15:43:00 - [21] - Quote Harry Forever wrote: wherelse I hade a lot already, what do you think that tells us? hmmm... Where? point out one single valid argument you have made that stands a chance of convincing people that your idea has any merit whatsoever. Quality beats quantity, so far you've got the quantity bit right, now try for some quality. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10370	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:10:00 - [22] - Quote Milan Nantucket wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Milan Nantucket wrote: Maybe you don't know how scamming works.... 1) Get a crappy alt 2) Spam all day 3) Some idiot falls for scam 4) Spam all day 5) Another idiot 6) Spam all day 7) another idiot 8) .... and so on and so forth 9) Biomass 10) Rinse and repeat No undocking is nowhere in the list so no "game mechanic" is there for any "Retribution". Now the idea is putting in an actual risk for something that is well riskless. I know how the scams work, although I can think of several "scammers" that would disagree with how you think they work. I'll even give you a couple of names of "scammers" that undock, Miilla and Erotica 1, both of which I am sure would love you to try and gain some retribution. Scams only work because the "mark" is too stupid or greedy to read properly. So your saying that those two own all the other accounts that don't bother undocking and hide behind their anonymity. I also don't consider Erotica a scammer as he/she tells you exactly what to do. Retribution isn't gained when they undock and then redock. As i tried your suggestion and it's still kind of hard to pew pew inside a station. I don't consider Erotica as a scammer either, hence the quotation marks. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10380	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 - [23] - Quote Elizabeth Aideron wrote: Harry Forever wrote: Andski wrote: What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps. omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do? putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment But he's right (in his own head at least), just look at all the valid points he's made in this thread (precisely none) Ace Uoweme wrote: It's why the guy is on /ignore. All he spews is crap. Devs design the sandbox how they want it to play, it's a misnomer to think players themselves create ALL the content in EvE (they don't). So sayeth the expert on talking utter bollocks. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10380	Posted - 2013.07.12 16:54:00 - [24] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush). So what you're saying is that CCP should make Concord pod criminals because players are too damn lazy to do it themselves? GTFO. If you want to instigate consequences for criminal activity beyond what already exists then get out there and encourage players to get off their collective backside and do something about it, instead of relying on CCP to apply a band-aid. It's up to players to provide consequences over and above the already existing ones, CCP have given the players a toolbox, it's up to the players to use it. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10383	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:01:00 - [25] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hey, maybe the prisons could be part of WiS? You get to walk around in the prison instead of the captains quarters! Wonder how much soap on a rope would cost in the NEX store? Mimatar CQ, nuff said. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10389	Posted - 2013.07.12 17:26:00 - [26] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Folks are put on /ignore because they can't even debate but by the lowest denominator. It's just a way to avoid even wasting time seeing what they spam. What they post back isn't worthy to even answer, no matter how they try to egg a response. because they have called me out on the amount of shiptoasting/ bad ideas that I spew on the forum, because they can present a coherent argument that makes me look bad, in my particular case because they hate that I talk about how fabulous WoW and its developers are, how I think that CCP should follow their example to attract the masses and in the process dumb the game down so far that it fails like all the others that have tried to emulate WoW, so that I can crow once again about how WoW is the best thing since sliced bread. FTFY "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10412	Posted - 2013.07.12 19:25:00 - [27] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: butthurt carebears. I think I have a new band name. Make sure and add: Special Snowflakes Hurt Feelings Brigade and Frequent Petitioners. You forgot "Habitual Shiptoasters" "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."
Jonah Gravenstein Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths 10427	Posted - 2013.07.12 22:44:00 - [28] - Quote I'm wondering if Harry has succeeded in blocking me yet? He promised to do it on page 2, by page 8 he'd still failed to find the block posts button, even though I told him precisely where it was. "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad."

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